[aosd-discuss] "AOP considered harmful"
Gregor Kiczales
gregor at cs.ubc.ca
Mon Apr 25 09:28:05 EST 2005
Its also interesting to note that the Burton analyst spoke
by phone and email to a number of people I know of (likely
he spoke to more of course). And asking around a lot I
haven't been able to find a single expert the Forrester
analyst consulted.
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> Max, thanks for clarifying that. I am wondering if the Forrester
> analyst contacted you to write his report (that I had the chance to
> read entirely - not just the abstract) and if you told him so ?
>
> No need to say that the Burton Group report published recently seems
> to give a contradictory echo to this one by the way.
> http://www.burtongroup.com/research_consulting/publicdoc.aspx?cid=679
>
> Alex
>
>
> On 4/25/05, Maximilian Stoerzer <stoerzer at fmi.uni-passau.de> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as one of the authors of the referenced paper, just a short
> note: This
> > paper was written for a panel discussion, and indeed intended to be
> > provocative.
> >
> > However, I think that AOP as we see it now can result in
> reduced program
> > understandability, if used in the wrong way. Additionally AOP imho
> > strongly depends on tool support (thanks for ajdt, great
> tool in that
> > context!).
> >
> > Our intention in comparing advice and GOTO was to outline these
> > problems, as I think they have to be addressed to make AOP
> a long term
> > success story, especially when considering software
> maintenance - and in
> > no way AOP bashing, please don't get us wrong ;o)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Max
> >
> > Eric Bodden wrote:
> >
> > >
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> > > Eric
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Eric Bodden
> > > Chair I2 for Programming Languages and Program Analysis
> > > RWTH Aachen University
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> > Maximilian Stoerzer
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