[aosd-discuss] "AOP considered harmful"
Srinivas Nedunuri
nedunuri at cs.utexas.edu
Mon Apr 25 15:13:03 EST 2005
Eric Tanter wrote:
> Thank you Ron, very interesting reply.
>
> I completely agree that the best thing among all is a good design and
> that AOP allows for cleaner designs. And that to understand any
> complex application, you also need good tools. I also agree that the
> "special-case obscure artefacts" are no solutions neither.
>
> But still, this mailing list is _discuss_ at aosd.net (notice the
> emphasize on 'discuss'), and it seems to me a bit exagerated to
> insinuate that AOP -as it is formulated today- has no problem, and
> that we shouldn't questions ourselves.
>
> Powerful stuff like multiple inheritance has been withdrawn from some
> major mainstream languages because its complexity and excessive power
> was too much compared to its benefits. It may be good to think about
> ways for this not to happen with AOP.
>
> The work of Aldrich on specifying contracts for aspects is a good
> example in this direction.
do you have a reference for this work?
thanks
> It's less powerful that "plain AOP" because you need to anticipate the
> 'aspect contract', but that brings much more confidence in what
> happens when applying aspects. Also, in their EAOP proposal, Douence,
> Sudholt et al. only consider aspects that _add_ some behavior. They
> exclude 'around' because "then you cannot say anything about what will
> happen". And I imagine there are other proposals around that target a
> more restricted AOP.
> I'm not saying these proposals are the definitive and good solution to
> the problems they identify, just that these problems do exist, and are
> worth discussing (and so, especially on this list ;)).
>
> -- Eric
>
>
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