[aosd-discuss] defining modular reasoning
beatmik at acm.org
Tue Apr 26 15:48:11 EST 2005
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Green [mailto:greenrd at greenrd.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: Mik Kersten
> Cc: discuss at aosd.net
> Subject: Re: [aosd-discuss] defining modular reasoning
> > A couple recent surveys place > the use of IDEs around 95%:
> > http://datadino.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4
> > http://servlets.com/polls/results.tea?name=javaide
> Umm, did you even read those pages?
> The first one asks "What Java/JSP IDE do you use?" - leading question,
> The second one clearly states:
> "These results are for entertainment purposes only. They probably don't
> anything. It's just fun to see what other people think."
> Simple web-based surveys have a host of problems, including trivial
> and potentially enormous sample biases. For example, web-based surveys are
> publicised on "partisan" websites, resulting in a biased sample, even if
> the sample
> was relatively unbiased to begin with.
> You might well be right in your conclusion, but I wouldn't go around
> surveys marked as "for entertainment purposes only" if I were you.
Yes, I read those pages. Those surveys are definitely not conclusive and as
you point out neither are others collected in this manner. Unfortunately,
there don't seem to be any conclusive surveys of IDE usage. So for the
purpose of estimating the importance of tool support efforts for AspectJ,
these surveys and user feedback is the kind of data we end up relying on. A
few others I've collected are below. They all place Emacs/Vi usage in
neighborhood of 5%. If there's any *recent* data out there that contradicts
this I'd be very interested in hearing about it (interestingly Emacs/Vi
usage was considerably higher just 2 years ago, pre Eclipse).
The Server Side Symposium Survey 2005 - What is your preferred Java IDE?
Java Studio 0.8%
Vote count: 242
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