[aosd-discuss] dynamic AOP and dynamic languages

[Eric Tanter]

IMHO it is not only a *good* idea to make AOP progress in a setting  
different from Java, but it is *necessary*. OOP is not Java-like OOP,  
and AOP must not be limited neither.

Ultimately there is a regain of interest in dynamic languages (*),  
and there are no scientific reasons why AOP should be limited to  
(what is today) the mainstream languages.

So, please go on!

:-)

-- Éric

(*) eg. the ACM dynamic languages symposium at OOPSLA 2005 and  
upcoming 2006, and related workshops (RDL "Revival of Dynamic  
Languages").


On May 11, 2006, at 16:44 , SainTiss wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Ok, I agree that probably there have been a number of attempts to  
> implement
> AOP in a number of languages. However, the question is why they never
> received their part of the attention? Is there a sound reason why  
> everything
> seems to fall back to Java in the end?
>
> Or would it be a good idea to try to publish my kind of  
> implementation to an
> AOP conference regardless?
>
> I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there really is a  
> contribution
> to AOP in dynamic languages, and if there is, whether it is  
> worthwhile trying
> to convince the AOP community?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Thursday 11 May 2006 18:02, Pascal Costanza wrote:
>> On 11 May 2006, at 16:50, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>>> SainTiss wrote:
>>>> I would like to get some feedback on whether this (dynamic  
>>>> weaving in
>>>> a dynamic language) is considered useful in the AOP community.
>>>
>>>  I would be interested in feedback on this, too, as I am working  
>>> on an
>>>  AOP implementation for a dynamic language (PHP in my case) that  
>>> uses
>>>  dynamic weaving.
>>
>> I think that for all dynamic / scripting languages, you can find at
>> least one approach that tries to implement at least some basic AOP
>> functionality. Googling for the name of a programming language and
>> "aspect-oriented" will probably give you a number of hits each. So
>> try, say, 'Python "aspect-oriented"', 'Ruby "aspect-oriented"',
>> 'Smalltalk "aspect-oriented"', 'Lisp "aspect-oriented"', and so on...
>>
>>
>> Pascal
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